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		<title>Comment on Arrival of New Volunteer: John&#8217;s Entry by Figkneet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Figkneet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks !</description>
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		<title>Comment on A Trip to the Copperbelt by Robert Blinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Blinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

Really insightful to read about your exploits. I&#039;ve certainly traveled along the roads (paths cleared through the jungle) that you speak of, but I&#039;ve never gotten as involved with the people as you have, so the &quot;Hello Mr. John&quot; is quite touching.

I actually wrote my thoughts out before posting them, and then I noticed that &quot;Anonymous&quot; above pretty much echoed what I had to say (right down to including the Millenium Challenge, which is associated with Sachs, below). Here are my thoughts anyway, since every additional voice helps:

The greater intractable problems of poverty, rule of law, and the nature of the West&#039;s help jumped out at me as well. I&#039;ve read the Easterly book, along with another far more utopian book called &quot;Common Ground,&quot; by &quot;The End of Poverty&quot; author Jeffrey Sachs. You really got me with your discussion of the burdened mother pondering a microloan. Sachs talks heavily about the following: a high birthrate is a safety outlet to make sure that at least one child survives until adulthood in a dangerous environment. Unfortunately, people have lots of kids to ensure the safety of one child in places where it&#039;s hard to feed even one child. Thus ensuring more starvation and a future of too many people. So I&#039;d side with him (and you, I think, concluding that population control is a critical concern. Sachs also notes however, that carrot is way better than stick. So instead of China&#039;s (recently disastrous due to faulty school construction) one-child-then-sterilization policy, a far better mode is just to fight tooth and nail against child mortality. Then cultural norms start to change pretty quickly: witness the plummeting birth rates in Europe. For this, I would imagine that implementing Sach&#039;s ideas along Easterly&#039;s local lines is the way to go. That said, you&#039;re in the nexus helping control that: (a) health care, (b) education, and (c) family planning/birth control. Well done. You seem to be in the right spot.

The other major problem is infrastructure (and more importantly, legal rights for infrastructure and property). You&#039;ve noticed that it&#039;s more than a bit hard to get anything done when prices change, bribes work, the rule of law changes day to day and person to person, etc. How can anyone decide how to allocate funds that are given to them as a gift if they don&#039;t know what there electric bill will be, if the roads will connect, if they can&#039;t buy oatmeal tomorrow? How does one make an investment decision when the future of that investment is in doubt or could be stolen? Sadly, those problems are deeper than local. Elimination of corruption is not a bottom-up process. It really, really helps to have a leadership dedicated to the task. Otherwise the whistleblowers tend to be &quot;disappeared.&quot; I can only hope then that in the long run small scale local influences can democratically influence the leadership to set up systems where corruption isn&#039;t tolerated.

Hopefully in a few years time it will be easier for an American visitor to point to our system as an example of how it should be done. I&#039;m recognizing how hard it is to correct the structure of our system in the U.S. to safeguard trust and public good. For you, I am in absolute awe at the hurdles you await. Perhaps instead of Easterly or Sachs, you should give Mortenson&#039;s &quot;Three Cups of Tea&quot; a read. Even though it occasionally wanders into blockbusterish plotting, the central thesis remains true. Good luck spreading knowledge and compassion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Really insightful to read about your exploits. I&#8217;ve certainly traveled along the roads (paths cleared through the jungle) that you speak of, but I&#8217;ve never gotten as involved with the people as you have, so the &#8220;Hello Mr. John&#8221; is quite touching.</p>
<p>I actually wrote my thoughts out before posting them, and then I noticed that &#8220;Anonymous&#8221; above pretty much echoed what I had to say (right down to including the Millenium Challenge, which is associated with Sachs, below). Here are my thoughts anyway, since every additional voice helps:</p>
<p>The greater intractable problems of poverty, rule of law, and the nature of the West&#8217;s help jumped out at me as well. I&#8217;ve read the Easterly book, along with another far more utopian book called &#8220;Common Ground,&#8221; by &#8220;The End of Poverty&#8221; author Jeffrey Sachs. You really got me with your discussion of the burdened mother pondering a microloan. Sachs talks heavily about the following: a high birthrate is a safety outlet to make sure that at least one child survives until adulthood in a dangerous environment. Unfortunately, people have lots of kids to ensure the safety of one child in places where it&#8217;s hard to feed even one child. Thus ensuring more starvation and a future of too many people. So I&#8217;d side with him (and you, I think, concluding that population control is a critical concern. Sachs also notes however, that carrot is way better than stick. So instead of China&#8217;s (recently disastrous due to faulty school construction) one-child-then-sterilization policy, a far better mode is just to fight tooth and nail against child mortality. Then cultural norms start to change pretty quickly: witness the plummeting birth rates in Europe. For this, I would imagine that implementing Sach&#8217;s ideas along Easterly&#8217;s local lines is the way to go. That said, you&#8217;re in the nexus helping control that: (a) health care, (b) education, and (c) family planning/birth control. Well done. You seem to be in the right spot.</p>
<p>The other major problem is infrastructure (and more importantly, legal rights for infrastructure and property). You&#8217;ve noticed that it&#8217;s more than a bit hard to get anything done when prices change, bribes work, the rule of law changes day to day and person to person, etc. How can anyone decide how to allocate funds that are given to them as a gift if they don&#8217;t know what there electric bill will be, if the roads will connect, if they can&#8217;t buy oatmeal tomorrow? How does one make an investment decision when the future of that investment is in doubt or could be stolen? Sadly, those problems are deeper than local. Elimination of corruption is not a bottom-up process. It really, really helps to have a leadership dedicated to the task. Otherwise the whistleblowers tend to be &#8220;disappeared.&#8221; I can only hope then that in the long run small scale local influences can democratically influence the leadership to set up systems where corruption isn&#8217;t tolerated.</p>
<p>Hopefully in a few years time it will be easier for an American visitor to point to our system as an example of how it should be done. I&#8217;m recognizing how hard it is to correct the structure of our system in the U.S. to safeguard trust and public good. For you, I am in absolute awe at the hurdles you await. Perhaps instead of Easterly or Sachs, you should give Mortenson&#8217;s &#8220;Three Cups of Tea&#8221; a read. Even though it occasionally wanders into blockbusterish plotting, the central thesis remains true. Good luck spreading knowledge and compassion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Trip to the Copperbelt by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did want to respond to your comment regarding the reason(s) that poverty eradication hasn&#039;t been successful in Africa over the last two centuries, and particularly since the independence movement after WWII.  I haven&#039;t read Easterly&#039;s book, and I am actually a big believer in the importance of local solutions to local problems, as well as market influence to increase efficiencies.  Moreover, having not read the book, I don&#039;t want to mis-characterize Easterly&#039;s (or your) position on such a complicated issue.  However, I do think that governments and major international institutions have a substantial role to play to _support_ those localized initiatives.  

First, national and transnational institutions can mobilize resources in ways that individuals and local communities cannot.  For example, the government of Zambia could--in theory--require the Chinese or the Indians who own the mines to support local services as one of their contractual obligations in exchange for earning a return on their investment in extracting copper.  No local authority would likely be capable of that sort of enforcement.  

Second, governments and transnational NGOs can (and should) provide the public services that markets usually fail to provide, and it is those very services that build the capacity for individuals to better their own lots.  In particular, education and road construction come to mind.  There is (usually) little profit to be made in education, yet broad primary education is an obvious prerequisite (necessary but not sufficient) for extensive development.  Similarly, the evidence you point to of good roads leading to the copper mines, with other transportation infrastructure degraded, suggests a government that is not able to generate the kinds of public capital that would multiply the productivity of individual citizens and their local activities.  Imagine how much more valuable those women&#039;s handicrafts might be if there were a broad, smooth road directly from their village to Lusaka, and cheap flights from Lusaka to London?  In a case like that, public and private cooperation could improve citizens&#039; lives more than either the individuals or the government could do on their own.

Finally, and in my opinion most importantly, governments and multi-national institutions can change institutions and systems.  This is controversial, of course, because the evidence is mixed and complex, but I am convinced that demand from below (i.e. individuals or small groups) will rarely if ever be sufficient to generate important institutions such as the rule of law, dynamic free press, oversight of government and private corruption, free and fair elections, and the other institutions that materially developed societies rely on to operate smoothly and develop further.  Outside pressure (from international organizations, other governments, transnational funders, etc.) in conjunction with citizen demand can lead to systemic change in the way institutions operate, which in turn can have dramatic impact on the opportunities for individual citizens.  The Millennium Challenge Corporation is just one example--and the jury is certainly still out on whether that approach will bear long-term fruit--of how incentives to make systemic changes can improve people&#039;s lives.  I&#039;m often reminded of an academic who once pointed out that the productivity of a Mexican immigrant to the United States rises by almost fifteen times by the simple act of crossing the US border; the reason, of course, is that now that immigrant can take advantage of the developed system of laws and institutions that protect citizens and reward industry (however imperfectly!).  Compared with the much more arbitrary and capricious system in Mexico (and many other underdeveloped countries), the simple fact of functional legal institutions dramatically increases individual and small-group productivity.  That is, it is still individuals and local groups that generate value for society--and as Easterly says, not grandiose &quot;Big Solutions&quot;--but we can&#039;t leave the entirety of fixing systemic flaws up to individuals or local groups who do not have the capacity or the means to make those changes.  Large changes need a large lever, and I believe that is the value that government, national and transnational institutions can provide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did want to respond to your comment regarding the reason(s) that poverty eradication hasn&#8217;t been successful in Africa over the last two centuries, and particularly since the independence movement after WWII.  I haven&#8217;t read Easterly&#8217;s book, and I am actually a big believer in the importance of local solutions to local problems, as well as market influence to increase efficiencies.  Moreover, having not read the book, I don&#8217;t want to mis-characterize Easterly&#8217;s (or your) position on such a complicated issue.  However, I do think that governments and major international institutions have a substantial role to play to _support_ those localized initiatives.  </p>
<p>First, national and transnational institutions can mobilize resources in ways that individuals and local communities cannot.  For example, the government of Zambia could&#8211;in theory&#8211;require the Chinese or the Indians who own the mines to support local services as one of their contractual obligations in exchange for earning a return on their investment in extracting copper.  No local authority would likely be capable of that sort of enforcement.  </p>
<p>Second, governments and transnational NGOs can (and should) provide the public services that markets usually fail to provide, and it is those very services that build the capacity for individuals to better their own lots.  In particular, education and road construction come to mind.  There is (usually) little profit to be made in education, yet broad primary education is an obvious prerequisite (necessary but not sufficient) for extensive development.  Similarly, the evidence you point to of good roads leading to the copper mines, with other transportation infrastructure degraded, suggests a government that is not able to generate the kinds of public capital that would multiply the productivity of individual citizens and their local activities.  Imagine how much more valuable those women&#8217;s handicrafts might be if there were a broad, smooth road directly from their village to Lusaka, and cheap flights from Lusaka to London?  In a case like that, public and private cooperation could improve citizens&#8217; lives more than either the individuals or the government could do on their own.</p>
<p>Finally, and in my opinion most importantly, governments and multi-national institutions can change institutions and systems.  This is controversial, of course, because the evidence is mixed and complex, but I am convinced that demand from below (i.e. individuals or small groups) will rarely if ever be sufficient to generate important institutions such as the rule of law, dynamic free press, oversight of government and private corruption, free and fair elections, and the other institutions that materially developed societies rely on to operate smoothly and develop further.  Outside pressure (from international organizations, other governments, transnational funders, etc.) in conjunction with citizen demand can lead to systemic change in the way institutions operate, which in turn can have dramatic impact on the opportunities for individual citizens.  The Millennium Challenge Corporation is just one example&#8211;and the jury is certainly still out on whether that approach will bear long-term fruit&#8211;of how incentives to make systemic changes can improve people&#8217;s lives.  I&#8217;m often reminded of an academic who once pointed out that the productivity of a Mexican immigrant to the United States rises by almost fifteen times by the simple act of crossing the US border; the reason, of course, is that now that immigrant can take advantage of the developed system of laws and institutions that protect citizens and reward industry (however imperfectly!).  Compared with the much more arbitrary and capricious system in Mexico (and many other underdeveloped countries), the simple fact of functional legal institutions dramatically increases individual and small-group productivity.  That is, it is still individuals and local groups that generate value for society&#8211;and as Easterly says, not grandiose &#8220;Big Solutions&#8221;&#8211;but we can&#8217;t leave the entirety of fixing systemic flaws up to individuals or local groups who do not have the capacity or the means to make those changes.  Large changes need a large lever, and I believe that is the value that government, national and transnational institutions can provide.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arrival of New Volunteer: John&#8217;s Entry by A Trip to the Copperbelt &#171; Rising Fountains Development Prog Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Trip to the Copperbelt &#171; Rising Fountains Development Prog Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] who clearly have higher incomes than both residents of Lundazi as well as the subsistence farmers I saw in the Luangwa Valley when RFDP went to conduct a water and sanitation class. Who is filling the seats of the expensive [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Arrival of New Volunteer: John&#8217;s Entry by Paul</title>
		<link>http://rfdp.wordpress.com/2008/06/26/arrival-of-new-volunteer-johns-entry/#comment-180</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello John,

Thank you for sharing your story-It seems you enjoy working with people of different backgrounds and I can only wish you all the best!
paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello John,</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing your story-It seems you enjoy working with people of different backgrounds and I can only wish you all the best!<br />
paul</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jeannie&#8217;s Blog &#8211; The Forgotten Floods by Josee-Anne</title>
		<link>http://rfdp.wordpress.com/2008/03/29/jeannies-blog-the-forgotten-floods/#comment-174</link>
		<dc:creator>Josee-Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 02:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Jeannie,

It was nice to read your blog.  So strange to be on the other side of the world now and not with you at the office working hard.  I miss it very much!

Josee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Jeannie,</p>
<p>It was nice to read your blog.  So strange to be on the other side of the world now and not with you at the office working hard.  I miss it very much!</p>
<p>Josee</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ooh the rainy season! (January 19th-January 25th) Josee-Anne by Joel</title>
		<link>http://rfdp.wordpress.com/2008/01/28/ooh-the-rainy-season-january-19th-january-25th-josee-anne/#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 05:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! You have so much work with little resources (Internet and vehicule). This makes things so much harder for you all. The manpower and will are there (that&#039;s a good thing), but the tools need to be there to help you guys do your excellent work. I wish so much I could just do much more to help you all with this. If I could do more, in a modest student way, please let me know ok!
Je pense fort à toi et t&#039;envoie tout l&#039;énergie et l&#039;amour possible pour t&#039;aider dans ces moments intenses ! 

Je t&#039;aime. Your little brother.

(and I wish you sunshine! --- like here in Montreal! hehe)

Joël xox</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! You have so much work with little resources (Internet and vehicule). This makes things so much harder for you all. The manpower and will are there (that&#8217;s a good thing), but the tools need to be there to help you guys do your excellent work. I wish so much I could just do much more to help you all with this. If I could do more, in a modest student way, please let me know ok!<br />
Je pense fort à toi et t&#8217;envoie tout l&#8217;énergie et l&#8217;amour possible pour t&#8217;aider dans ces moments intenses ! </p>
<p>Je t&#8217;aime. Your little brother.</p>
<p>(and I wish you sunshine! &#8212; like here in Montreal! hehe)</p>
<p>Joël xox</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ooh the rainy season! (January 19th-January 25th) Josee-Anne by joanne</title>
		<link>http://rfdp.wordpress.com/2008/01/28/ooh-the-rainy-season-january-19th-january-25th-josee-anne/#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>joanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allô Josée
    J&#039;étais contente de pouvoir lire ton beau rapport,c&#039;est très intéressant ,ça fait réfléchir,de voir à quel point  la pauvreté est bien présente dans le monde.Au plaisir de te relire.joannexxx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allô Josée<br />
    J&#8217;étais contente de pouvoir lire ton beau rapport,c&#8217;est très intéressant ,ça fait réfléchir,de voir à quel point  la pauvreté est bien présente dans le monde.Au plaisir de te relire.joannexxx</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ooh the rainy season! (January 19th-January 25th) Josee-Anne by Lori</title>
		<link>http://rfdp.wordpress.com/2008/01/28/ooh-the-rainy-season-january-19th-january-25th-josee-anne/#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 02:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josee!
I&#039;m so proud of you and the work you are doing. This blog is an amazing communication tool- what you are doing and writing about is powerful and eye opening.
Love always,
Lori</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josee!<br />
I&#8217;m so proud of you and the work you are doing. This blog is an amazing communication tool- what you are doing and writing about is powerful and eye opening.<br />
Love always,<br />
Lori</p>
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		<title>Comment on My first week in Zambia… (January 11th to January 18th) Josee-Anne by Annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sending me your link.. I will love to keep up on your travels. Sounds like you will be very busy. You really are making a difference....  bless you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sending me your link.. I will love to keep up on your travels. Sounds like you will be very busy. You really are making a difference&#8230;.  bless you.</p>
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